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| ziro | Mar 11 2010, 08:45 PM Post #1 |
 
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| Gokulio | Mar 11 2010, 09:51 PM Post #2 |
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This comment was utterly, ridiculously wrong so I deleted it. XD
Edited by Gokulio, Mar 14 2010, 06:39 PM.
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| + Pelador | Mar 12 2010, 12:37 AM Post #3 |
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Ermm. Vegeta at the end of the saiyan saga couldn't even beat Zarbon let alone stand up to Frieza's third form. Yamcha in the Android saga isn't much stronger than Goku when he faught Vegeta. There's no way of knowing for sure obviously but I would guess his power level peaked at 12000. The reason for this is because he trained on King Kai's planet for way longer than Goku did and despite not having Goku's abilities he's bound to be stronger than Goku was if he's trained there for longer. But Vegeta's power level was about 14000-16000 plus he's a way better fighter so Yamcha would more than likely lose. |
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| Qwuall | Mar 12 2010, 01:57 AM Post #4 |
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Yamcha and the gang supposedly trained harder at king kai's then goku. He also went on to have 3 years of training. Yamcha would cream Vegeta (saiyan saga). |
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| + Pelador | Mar 12 2010, 02:02 AM Post #5 |
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Goku was a saiyan though and has always had to ability to increase his strength by a significant amount, unlike Yamcha who often takes much longer to reach similar levels. 3 years may have been enough to surpass vegeta but it is Yamcha we're talking about. |
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| Joshua | Mar 12 2010, 04:11 AM Post #6 |
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I see Vegeta winning because he's a saiyan and Yamcha is but a human. Vegeta would get stronger from battle because he's a saiyan. lol ~Xicor |
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| Emperor Cold | Mar 12 2010, 08:44 PM Post #7 |
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Another factor in Vegeta's favor is the unspoken rule that Yamcha must always lose. Think about it; the last fight he ever won (not counting filler) was against the Invisible Man way back in db. And he would've lost that fight too if it wasn't for Kuririn's "strategy". He is just simply not allowed to win in a serious fight. |
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| Joshua | Mar 13 2010, 04:21 AM Post #8 |
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haha Yamcha MUST always lose. lol wow that's great. He would not only lose to Vegeta, but he also lost Bulma to him as well. Dang that blows. lol ~Xicor |
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| Gokulio | Mar 14 2010, 06:38 PM Post #9 |
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Haha I was thinking about the frieza saga, I got totally confused. XD I shall delete that comment. |
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| SG2Tiger | Mar 14 2010, 07:03 PM Post #10 |
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I think Yamcha would win since his training with Kaioh was more intense than Gokou's, and he worked really hard to train for the coming of the Androids to avoid being left in the dust again. He's not Saiyajin, so that's a disadvantage (especially as coming back from death really means nothing for Yamcha), but if he was trained and prepared in advance for Vegeta the way he was for the Androids, then I think he would have had an upper hand. I don't think it would be an easy victory, and they'd probably be fairly evenly-matched, with Yamcha just slightly better particularly from the preparation (Vegeta having spent a year inside a pod, thinking 'oh they won't stand a chance' and not preparing to really do any real fighting, just destroying). And don't say that if Vegeta went Oozaru that he'd win - full moon or no, I give Yamcha credit enough to know about cutting off Vegeta's tail from the get-go. Remember, he's the one who first discovered the tail as Gokou's weakness back in the original Dragonball. Without that ability, Vegeta would be worse off already, and so it would come down to who could survive the longest. And of course, Yamcha would have taken down Nappa effortlessly - so it'd be a one-on-one match without being weakened already or having to deal with anyone interfering. Vegeta's pride alone would be so weakened at the sight of a human killing Nappa and fighting evenly with him that I don't think he'd be able to use his full abilities anyways. So yeah, Yamcha would win - not an effortless victory, but he would win. |
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| Joshua | Mar 15 2010, 09:37 PM Post #11 |
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You may be right, but if Vegeta gets stronger every time he fights because he's a sayian. So there is really no way to know for sure, but Yamcha is only a human. I'm not saying you're wrong or that I'm right. I'm just saying there is really no way to know for sure. ~Xicor |
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| SG2Tiger | Mar 15 2010, 09:42 PM Post #12 |
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Well to be fair, a Saiyajin only gets dramatically stronger every time he comes back from the brink of death. We're talking a base power of Vegeta here as 'how strong he was when he arrived on Earth', right? Well, he hasn't been training during the year it took to get there like the other warriors have, he's been asleep in a space pod. If he had also been training straight along, then things would be different, but it's not as though Vegeta's power is going to rise with every punch he throws during his battle with Yamcha...that change in strength takes time, even for Saiyajin. Their growth rate is stronger than humans, sure, but it's still not an instant process, or Gokou would have had the potential (maybe not the catalyst) to become a Super Saiyajin a lot earlier. My point is that a Yamcha who had all that time to train and become stronger, against a Vegeta who had been asleep in a space pod for an entire year without any physical activity, would more likely than not have the upper hand. Of course there's no way to be sure about any of these things, but that's what makes it so much fun to speculate and discuss. :P |
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| Joshua | Mar 15 2010, 10:59 PM Post #13 |
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haha I see where you're coming from. If you put it that way, then maybe Yamcha has a chance. I just still don't see Vegeta losing. Do you know the power levels of Saiyan Saga Vegeta and Android Saga Yamcha? ~Xicor Edited by Joshua, Mar 15 2010, 10:59 PM.
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| + Pelador | Mar 16 2010, 12:15 AM Post #14 |
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Saiyan saga Vegeta has a power level of about 14000-16000. After the Freeza saga, power levels are never mentioned so I have no idea about Yamcha in the Android saga. I think that even if Yamcha had the same level of power as Vegeta, Vegeta would still win. He is far tougher and a much more able fighter. |
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| GohanVidel | Mar 16 2010, 04:15 PM Post #15 |
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humans power isnt limitless. when we think about training we automtically think that your powerlevel increases exponentially but this is false. this only works with saiyans. Even picollos power level doesnt increase like this. Yes it does increase with training, but he had to fuse with Nail and Kami just to keep up with the super saiyans. that being said if Yamcha has a million years to train that doesnt mean he will be as strong as a super saiyan.... this debate is different however because vegeta durring the saiyan saga is a realistic. I think yamcha would loose however because vegeta has alot more versitile move set; and he is just plan out tougher |
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